Why is he telling us this? Whats important about that is the fructose molecule. And then you have to have a third project, which is like 75 percent done. What type of a person is going to be safe in what type of an environment to go back to work? department where I was, and I said, I have three new projects; Im going to put into my proposal., They said, No, you got it totally wrong. Peter Attia talks with Steve Levitt about the problem with immortality, what's missing from our Covid response, and why nicotine is underrated. Apparently Peter and his buddy Gary Taubes just love themselves some crappy pseudoscience. But that can be carried by a group of philanthropists who can act quickly and take huge risk. And you would say, Peter, those seem really easy, and youd be right as a 37-year-old stud, but the point is most 60 year olds couldnt do them. Dr. Peter Attia. I think I probably spent too many years ignoring things that shouldnt have been ignored. LEVITT: The set of things hes done to his body over time, in the spirit of self-experimentation, are mind-blowing. Dr. Peter trained for five years at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in general surgery, where he was the recipient of several prestigious awards, including Resident of the Year. Hes spent the last few years being mentored by the top medical scientists and now hosts The Drive, a weekly, deep-dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity by working on physical, cognitive, and emotional health. A SIXTEEN-ARTICLE POWERBOMB. Additionally, Dr. Peter is an advisor to and/or investor in the following companies: Dr. Peter has an impressive career, but hes an even more impressive person in real life! In fact, our conversation was so fascinating, that I decided to split it into two episodes! LEVITT: All right, so lets talk about your very unusual background. But I do spend quite a bit of time in starvation ketosis because I fast frequently so either three days a month or seven days a quarter is typically my fasting routine. Peter Attia (born 19 March 1973) is a Canadian-American physician known for his medical practice that focuses on the science of longevity. But what was it? So how about nicotine? It turns out that our bodies perform a lot of glucose disposal when we sleep, so sleep is incredibly important for preventing glucose from building up in our bloodstreams. It showed I had cerebral contusions. So you took more or less the same approach to academics that you took to boxing. Matt Hickey is the producer, and Dan Dzula was the engineer of this episode. LEVITT: Yeah, for sure. from Stanford University and holds a B.Sc. And in the meantime, if youre ready to learn how to live to be over 100 and prevent chronic diseases, join me on. Post a screenshot of the episode along with your biggest takeaways on Instagram, and make sure to tag Dr. Peter, Stay tuned for Wednesdays episode Part 2 of my interview with Dr. Peter Attia! And to me, we want to minimize that gap, right? LEVITT: One of the things that really bothers me about myself is that I can fall asleep anywhere, anytime. So, for example, if the argument is that the people who are most disadvantaged genetically will have the greatest benefit from change, the number I talk about with patients is probably five to seven years. ATTIA: Now, that I remember. Lets watch this thing instead. And shes like, Who is this guy? And I said, Look, I dont agree with half the things this guy says, but he is categorically one of the smartest dudes ever. Dr. Peter Attia is a physician focusing on the applied science of longevity. So the former is one molecule of something called glucose and one of fructose bound together. And then take a little step further, and you reach neurodegenerative disease, of which Alzheimers disease is far and away the most common and also the most rapidly increasing. But it was like, You got to do it, man. But I tried to build a mathematical model to address a problem in the I.C.U. And theres no getting around that. Its easy to be an armchair quarterback, but its still hard for me to realize why we didnt make a greater effort to ramp up testing quicker. Case fatality rate (CFR) of COVID19 is largely an academic question and has little real-world importance. And these days I spend virtually no time in nutritional ketosis. About Community. Peter Attia, MD, is the founder ofEarly Medical, a medical practice that applies the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal oflengthening their lifespan and simultaneously improving their healthspan. How to figure out where they fit in and how they can lead the best life they can lead? Im actually going to tuck them underneath my lip like chewing tobacco and let it just ease out and keep me going.. LEVITT: So youve devoted much of the last 10 years to understanding longevity better and the things that are under control of people in their behaviors. We promise no spam. So it might be another totally new way to tap benefit above and beyond the nighttime sleep. And when it comes to naps, Dr. Peter says theyre fine, as long as they dont disrupt your sleep at night. How many other concussions I had, I dont know. Dr. Peter Attia is the founder of Attia Medical PC. LEVITT: And so why? Welcome toPeople I (Mostly) Admirewith Steve Levitt. Steve, we should have you take the Epworth Sleep Survey. And this mutation actually is what saved our species, because if we didnt have the ability to go to a cold place like Europe and get fat in the fall by eating all of the fructose-rich berries, we wouldnt have survived the winters. And I now realize in retrospect that was almost assuredly primarily being contributed by the lack of sleep. To listen ad-free, subscribe to Stitcher Premium. You sometimes need that distance from something. His practice also focuses on elements such as diet, sleep, exercise, and, physiological aspects that promote What did your day look like? Theres days when I think technologys going to solve all of our problems. [4] First wanting to become a professional boxer, he later attended Queen's University, receiving B.Sc. My practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease), while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). what happened to peter attia. But it needs to be that long nap because thats about the length of time it takes to go through the phases of sleep. And in particular, I dont know if youve looked at naps at all, but theres some new research that suggests that in terms of afternoon productivity, naps have an incredible impact. Explore the list of the most recommended book titles suggested by Peter Attia . So this just reinforced in me that, youre not immortal. Why werent we immediately engaging in a whole bunch of experiments that would very rapidly get us answers to questions that would enable us to decide what to do? Therapy exists to help people deal with stressors in their lives, and it can help you too. The first two are simple: Diet and exercise. ATTIA: So there were a lot of things that were really upsetting me at the time. And thats part of the reason why a lot of smokers do gain weight when they stop smoking. Aside from preventing chronic diseases like Type 2 diabetes, how can we extend our healthspans to become, as Dr. Peter put it, kick-ass 100-year-olds? to do just that, Dr. Peter structures his exercise around four main pillars: My training is very specific, but now it is fundamentally organized around four pillars: Stability, strength, mitochondrial or aerobic efficiency, and anaerobic performance. Dr. Peter Attia. Comments deemed to be spam or solely promotional in nature will be deleted. Non-lame, weekly emails on thelatest strategies and tacticsfor increasing your lifespan, healthspan, and well-being (plus new podcast announcements). So taking a bunch of people who have recovered and asking the question: what does their recovery tell us about their risk of subsequent infection relative to uninfected people? ATTIA: I dont know if that exercise did, but yes, I think a lot of the training that I did did pay off, actually. When we think of extending our lifespans, we think a lot about our physical health how well our bodies function. And they mightve spent the last 20 of those years in an unbelievable state of misery. Additionally, Dr. Peter is an advisor to and/or investor in the following companies: Virta Health, Hu Kitchen, Oura Health Oy, Magic Spoon Cereal, Inevitable Ventures, Salutoceuticals, Dexcom, and Supercast. Dr. Attia is a huge proponent of supplementing with magnesium. Now, whether its another SARS coronavirus or an influenza virus or another virus, I dont know. And thats when I stopped my experiment. ATTIA: I mean, I was a pretty good fighter at the time, but we have a heavy bag in our garage now. The problem is that we may be living longer, but were living with chronic health conditions that significantly lower our quality of life. Mass vaccination would interfere with this a lot. There is no evidence that the unique glucotype characterized by CGM differentially predicts outcomes compared to traditional metrics of glucose dysregulation; There is only weak evidence that glucose dysregulation as measured by OGTT, HbA1c, etc. LEVITT: Yeah. By reducing the amount of carbohydrates we consume and by exercising, we reduce the amount of glucose were consuming and increase our muscle so that when we, consume glucose, our bodies have somewhere to put it. So when you contrast living to 70 [and] spending 20 years in misery versus living to 75 with maybe two years in misery, it just doesnt even strike me as a trade-off. . So after college and before grad school. I dont know that its a substitute for the nighttime sleep, though. ATTIA: No. Where did this drive come from? We can be reached at. And I will say, hes one of the few people who when he tells me to do something, I just do it. Your body naturally creates glucose in your liver, so when you eat and consume extra glucose, your body sends it to your muscles, and you use it as energy. I think they often get confounded. And so when I decided to leave, my first thought was actually to go to business school, because I really missed doing quantitative problem-solving. So I went, three days and just had water. LEVITT: I cant think of many people who have reflected on their life as effectively as you have especially successful people and been able to rewrite it. You can really imagine the matrix of studies that needs to be done, which says, O.K., what does transmission look like inside versus outside? LEVITT: I will say that youve taught me a lot and I never told you this before youre one of the few people on the planet whose opinion I trust so completely that when you tell me to do something, no matter how absurd it sounds, I do it. So theres this molecule called adenosine. They get their money from Congress. It is the one thing that makes all three of those worse, and, in its most extreme state, its Type 2 diabetes. Comments are welcomed and encouraged. But theyre not really set up to do big, big thinking. I mean, not even hard to figure out if youre willing to do randomized experiments. Peter's current diet can simplified into 3 "rules": Time Restricted Feeding Avoid Sugars, High Fructose Corn Syrup & Junk Food No Restriction on Healthy Starches and Vegetables 1) Time Restricted Feeding At the low end, Peter fasts between 14 - 16 hours each day, and at the high end, he fasts between 20 - 22 hours. From 2012-2015, he . [7] Attia co-founded and served as President of Nutrition Science Initiative (NuSI) with Gary Taubes in 2012. The four pillars of being a kick-ass 100-year-old. ATTIA: I actually this is probably one that has changed less than most in the past decade. In addition to training at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Dr. Peter also spent two years at the. December 9, 2022, Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. And I think the people who are luckiest and I put myself in that category hit local minima, recognize theyve hit a local minima, but not so much damage has been done that they cant get out of it. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease) while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). Well, I have six kids and I havent had a good nights sleep in 18 years. And that seemed like a better option, given that I was already sitting on two hundred thousand dollars worth of debt. LEVITT: Yeah, I mean, youve listed a bunch of things that we would want to know the answers to that we dont know the answers to. In other words we have to learn how to manage the causes of stress and anxiety in our lives. You went to McKinsey. But it could put a slightly different interpretation on it. Im afraid that I havent done a great job. Its the cognitive piece so how well does your brain work as you age? LEVITT: Yeah, absolutely. Which is: what are those people who cant quit also incapable of doing on a day to day basis, vis vis their very rigid view of, this is the way to do things versus not. And Im still generally a somewhat rigid person. Do you have specific parenting advice that you would dole out? I really enjoy his take on things, his clarity, the brilliant guests he has on, and how out of my depth he is.. Hes playing the long-game and working hard to maintain the strength and overall good health hell need to continue living an active and fulfilled life even when hes over 100 years old. Ive never really experienced nicotine. I rarely have a conversation with Peter in which he doesnt introduce me to something Ive never thought about before. Our lifespan is the amount of time we live, and it is steadily growing longer. Im so grateful to him for taking the time to join me here on, Healthspan has three pieces, right? Taubes and his cofounder,. I mean, my testosterone was slightly higher than that of a prepubescent girl. And I think most people do find a lot of benefit from it. Comments that harass other posters will be deleted. After obtaining his medical degree from Stanford University, he was a surgeon at Johns Hopkins and worked at the National Cancer Institute. , where his research focused on immune-based therapies for melanoma. Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Andrew Huberman discuss the best exercises for health and longevity.Dr. LEVITT: And did you actually do a lot of fights? To me the more important question, Steve, and the one I spend more time thinking about, is: what do you do next time around? And I think youve come to appreciate, in recent years, the importance of sleep. How do we know if we have Type 2 Diabetes? Enjoy this content? In 2018 Dr. Attia switched to a special type of magnesium called Slow-Mag. He has since been mentored by some of the most experienced and innovative lipidologists, endocrinologists, gynecologists, sleep physiologists, and longevity scientists in the United States and Canada. Now hes a physician focused on the science of longevity. And I remember once I was being interviewed and someone asked me: if you could be granted immortality or something, would you take it? Why dont we know the dose of fasting? Were living to reach older and older ages than ever before, which is great. Now, in very low doses, which is what you would get if you were eating a piece of fruit, there is no problem in eating fructose. The other two preventions, however, might surprise you. All rights reserved. Why didn't you address what Nina has brought up? Its a wonderful fuel. Too often, it intervenes with treatments too late to help, prolonging lifespan at the expense of healthspan, or quality of life. Physician. Its the cognitive piece so how well does your brain work as you age? Slow-Mag is designed to maximize mag's benefits while simultaneously minimizing its side effects. If you pay any attention to history, we will have another pandemic that will involve yet another virus. So you went to Stanford and got your medical degree there and then you did your residency at Johns Hopkins. I actually find a fasting sleep to be some of the most amazing because Im watching this plummeting temperature, rising heart rate variability, falling heart rate, all of those really valuable things. Dr. Peter Attia. Which doesnt necessarily undo or undermine the results of that. And if people say to me, sometimes hey man, Give me one piece of dietary advice, Id be like, Just start reading labels. But a quick 20-minute power nap is no big deal! Its one of the three vetted sleep surveys that really can give us insight into your sleep. Residency didnt seem very merit-based. Lets dive in! Yeah, some days its just fun to sit there and laugh and goof off. So, if we can turn off the phones well before bedtime, well find it a lot easier to fall asleep. And you said, Well, Im allergic to sugar. And with a great deal of curiosity, she said, What happens to you when you eat sugar? And you looked at her completely deadpan. Theres days when I really feel like Im getting left behind and the train is so far ahead and Im never going to catch up. And more recently, and that is to say in the last hundred years or so, people figured out that you could basically trick your body into doing that by restricting carbohydrates. 2 teaspoons (10 mL) every evening with dinner, providing 1600mg EPA and 1,000mg DHA. And I think a lot of people get there eventually in life, but I would just say, dont be afraid of that type of exploration. And at the time, what they said I dont know if they still say it was that if you just limit yourself to something like three hours of sleep, you get used to it and your body adjusts to it. And then after school, I would get home and then do another 90 minutes of work on the heavy bag, speed bag, double end bag in my basement, coupled with more anaerobic training. Im afraid that Ive worked too much. And then youd just be guaranteed to get N.S.F. Thats actually a billion dollar question. So thats called starvation ketosis. In fact, Dr. Peter recommended to stop eating about three hours before bedtime. Our staff also includes Alison Craiglow, Greg Rippin, and Corinne Wallace; our intern is Emma Tyrrell. And I dont say that necessarily to be critical, but its just, you want to talk about incentives. If you take a 20-minute afternoon nap, youre not going to get into whats called delta wave sleep. The only sad part is my dad said a few days ago, Yeah, the last person I grew up with and I was friends with, they died. Pacific Standard", "Blaming the Patient, Then Asking Forgiveness", "Silicon Valley Wants to Cash In on Fasting", "Attia P. TED: Is the Obesity Crisis Hiding a Bigger Problem? Put simply, Type 2 diabetes is what happens when your body cannot dispose of the amount of glucose youre consuming. So we evolved this way to instead break down fat, which even under the leanest times, you still had days, if not months worth of energy from, because fat is so energy-dense, and we could turn that fat into a molecule called a ketone. Its just so hard to quit stuff. All of the music you heard on this show was composed by Luis Guerra. Dr. Peters goal is to reduce those early deaths as much as possible. I know Im inspired to increase my healthspan in addition to my lifespan, and I hope you are too! And during all of this intentional exercise, Dr. Peter has one thing in mind: his Centenarian Olympics. Youll be able to read more about this in Dr. Peters book when it comes out, but for now, I can tell you that the Centenarian Olympics is a series of activities that Dr. Peter wants to be able to do when he turns 100. So it becomes a way for us to recycle our dead or defective cells. His post can be found here. His practice focuses on the applied science of longevity. When I first met you, that was your obsession, nutrition. Below this, it has no benefit, above this, its toxic. But something inside said, You dont feel right. So I said, Hey, Mike, I got to call it a day, man. And when I went down to cool down by hitting the speed bag, which is that tiny little round bag that basically has no weight or impact just the impact of hitting that hurt my head so much that I was like, I got to stop.. I definitely had one horrible concussion. His practice deals extensively with nutritional interventions, exercise physiology, sleep physiology, emotional and mental health, and pharmacology to increase lifespan (delay the onset of chronic disease) while simultaneously improving healthspan (quality of life). The four huge factors of Type 2 Diabetes. And so many years later, as I began to actually understand the benefits of sleep, it stands alone as one of what I think of as one of the four or five pillars of longevity. But when we sleep, its best for our bodies to be cold when we sleep cooler, we get more rejuvenating sleep. He lives in Austin, Texas with his wife and three kids. ATTIA: I did. And its a finding that basically predicts early onset of cardiovascular disease, which shouldnt have been a surprise to me because the list of men in my family who have died of cardiovascular disease is pretty long. In addition to being an accomplished physician, Dr. Peter is also a successful businessman. I actually find a fasting sleep to be some of the most amazing because Im watching this plummeting temperature, rising heart rate variability, falling heart rate, all of those really valuable things. , I think there [are] basically three ways that we can approach dealing with this: One of these is through psychotherapy, pharmacotherapy, and then behavioral therapy, which Im an overwhelming proponent of in particular a type of behavioral therapy called Dialectical Behavioral Therapy or DBT. , My training is very specific, but now it is fundamentally organized around four pillars: Stability, strength, mitochondrial or aerobic efficiency, and anaerobic performance. , Those four main pillars focus on the different areas Dr. Peter wants to maintain good health even into old age. LEVITT: And then you became obsessed with nutrition. 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