Springfield ~ M1A Loaded ~ .7.62 NATO GI#: 102228493 Secondly, without adjustable knobs, you have to site in at a fixed distance, say at 100 yards, which limits you to hit at 300 yards, and with a600 yard 308 cartridge? (without magazine) Sights: Iron with rail Stock: Plastic Action: Bolt Finish: Black, gray or green Capacity: 5+1 rounds Price: $1,699. This model also comes with a standard flash suppressor. $54.99. I settled on a Vortex Optics Viper PST GEN II 3-1544 optic with the EBR-7C MRAD reticle to mount on the Scout Squad for this review. Comments/thoughts. You've got to have around 12" of eye reliefe on this setup? I personally like a medium height on my scout rifles, but with the M1A, low rings do the trick. Let me know what you guys think of the M1A and the different variations Springfield Armory makes. Late on day three, the dirtier Chilean surplus brass began to stick in the chamber. Dont have an M1A anymore as I had to sell it and twenty magazines to leave Wyoming- it had to be sent back once for faulty bolt / oprod,Springfield was very quick to fix and also gave me a new SAK barrel and TRW bolt and oprod along with a no charge repair.I have my M1 HRA 1954 and it is my go to now. I own a Polytech M14 type rifle with an 18 inch barrel. So how can they be one of the most popular and respected battle rifles in history? 22 inches is just too much for me to handle. Size wise, 18 inches feels just right for me. This is a beautiful rifle. The M1A Scout Squads sights rock. A shortened (18" barrel), lightened version of the M1A is catalogued as the M1A Scout Squad Rifle. The Scout Squad solidly mounted optics rail sits forward of the action. The M8/T-1 combo is sweet! Overall Length: 38.6 in. The Savage AccuStock provides a rigid interface between stock, action and barrel, and supports parts along the entire length rather than at just two points. Just recently graduated a FrontSight 4 day practical rifle course with it. Most like the M14 and M1 Garand, its the model of choice for M1A purists. It wouldnt hold a zero beyond the second day of the rifle class, so Ive been back to iron sights and saving up for a proper scout scope. It wasnt until I started to really think about it that I truly realized just how soft shooting this variation of the M1A really is. The military M14 receivers were manufactured using the drop forge process, which is more complicated and more expensive. I had a scout 16 and in a stupid moment sold it, now I am replacing it with the scout squad. My feeling is something like this with a Spikes Tactical chest rig for magazines would be a perfect go-to gun for SHTF situations. Stay safe out there! Historic firearm lovers as well as former servicemen who carried either of those two rifles will dig the familiarity. WASR-10 AK-47. Wouldnt the round be better with a longer barrel? In fact, its one of our favorite .308 rifles as well as one of our recommended rifles for 3-Gun heavy metal competition. Its not a pleasant experience for compatriots who find themselves in the rifles sonic sweet spot. Springfield Armory has been churning out M1A rifles for some time and has developed a scout version as well. Barrel: 18 in. It shoulders, points, and handles like a dream. @ Josh I was a 13B for over 4 years, wile in Afghanistan in 09 i got to leave the M777s and M109s and hump my gun bunny a** all over the Wardak province. For now, if youve got the $1500 to spend on a bad-ass rifle, and can afford to keep her fed and happy, the M1A Scout Squad is a do-it-all kind of gun. When I bought mine about a year ago it was still legal in California. The M1A Scout Squad rifle features a rugged rear sight that is easily adjustable for both windage and elevation without tools. You do not pay Megan Kriss is an avid recreational shooter by day, and writer/editor by night. If you have the money buy this rifle, it is fun to shoot and will be great hand me down to grandsons. Ive been studying those and will probably go with. The rifle fed and fired all its ammo without complaint. There were some other less distinct features that Cooper insisted on, but they are not necessary to the core concept of the scout rifle. That's a sweet looking setup. The forward rail on the Scout squad is noted for not holding a consistent zero over time. Shooting under time pressure out to 200 yards, the Scout Squad was quick, precise and powerful. Great review. I have had both loaded M1A and a scout squad, both have pros and cons. Eight major concealed carry insurance programs are now available to the millions of Americans who carry concealed. M1A 15-Round Magazine - 7.62x51mm NATO (.308 WIN) / 6.5 Creedmoor. Id hate to see any more of our great manufactures go out of business or be sold to foreign corporations. It has the same sights as the Standard Issue model. I dont want to say they all hated the M16A1 but they all had these terrific battle rifles taken out of their hands and replaced by the 16s. That said, its important to notenot all M1As are the same as there are eight available models: Each designed for different purposes with its own advantages. This would appear to address one of the original complaints lodged against the M14 rifle. OK, maybe not so much the Norton. Barrel: 16.1 in. B It's more SOCOM-like. You have entered an incorrect email address! It is only available in one size and one caliber. The Springfield Armory M1A is a civilian version of the M14 rifle designed and manufactured by Springfield Armory, Inc. in 1974. 2. Guaranteed. Powerful, accurate, and reliable, plus the very satisfying sound of hitting steel at two hundred yards. I decided to get a more traditional style scope since thats what I prefer. The Springfield Armory M1A Scout Squad gas-operated rifle tames the recoil of the 7.62 cartridge to a positively manageable level. And they saw only a relatively small amount of actual combat. The barrel is a US army issue installed by Smith Enterprise. Magazines: 1-10 Round, Parkerized The Steyr Scout has a three-position safety with a fire option and two levels of safety, one locks the bolt and one does not. The rifle was developed in conjunction with the Gunsite Academy and features their name engraved on the receiver. You know that M1A is not a reg Scout. M1A Rifle Series Sort by Price: Low; High; Filter . Statistics When looking at capable 308 battle rifles, its hard to ignore the M1A line of rifles. However, if a shooter has spent their entire life turning their head to unnecessary angles, the transition will tough, as well as positioning of the rifle if the scope is very low profile. I'm strongly considering going the Ultimak route if I can save up enough for an Aimpoint T-1 Micro. After buying/collecting over 15 SA .45s of various types, and 4 m1As I had the audacity to call them and ask if they could supply me with a metal buttplate for my Scout. These scout rifles feature a forward-mounted Picatinny rail for optics, ghost ring backup iron sights, a detachable 10-round box magazine (5 rounders are available), and a traditional scope mounting option. The polymer stock has a backup 5-round magazine in the buttstock. One of the major differences between the standard-issue Springfield Armory M1A and the M1 Garand is definitely the gas system. The longer length top Picatinny rail allows for more expansive options for optics while the backup iron ghost ring sights include a front fiber optic for improved visibility. Mossberg seems to be mostly known for its Model 500 shotgun, but the company makes plenty of popular rifles as well, including the Mossberg MVP Scout. Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>. It feels like an older system but its still extremely effective, especially at range. Springfield M1A Scout Squad 308 with Walnut Stock (NY Compliant) $2,026.00 $1,999.99. We investigate Springfield Armory's M1A models and rundown the pros and cons of each model to help you choose the M1A that's right for you. By holding your head as vertical as comfortably possible, and pressing your jaw bone into the side of the buttstock will make longer distance accuracy easier. More magazines are always more fun. 4. And that is with various M80 ball mil-surp ammo. The loaded has a match grade aperture open .052 with 1/2 MOA windage and MOA elevation. HUH? The rifle is heavier than an AR, but not prohibitively so. The Scout is nice with the shorter barrel. NM sights. The Burris Scout Scope with 2.75 power & heavy reticle (#200269) is a great one as are their variable pistol scopes with the ballistic plex reticle (#200299). Springfield M1A .308 WIn Scout Squad Rifle with Desert FDE Finish In Stock Brand: Springfield; Item Number: AA9116; Springfield M1A Standard 308 with Flat Dark Earth Composite Stock In Stock Brand: Springfield; Item Number: MA9120 Springfield M1A Loaded . The fore-end of the stock sports an integral bipod that folds up completely into the stock, an accessory rail and five sling attachment points, another Cooper notion. I absolutely love this rifle. Reengaging the safe was a bit tighter but still manageable fairly easily. If you're one of those shooters that's needs and can utilize the extra accuracy, and you think your round count will probably be over 6K rounds a year every year, then bite the bullet on the wait time and drop the extra money for the Fulton. Why do people insist on ruining perfectly wonderful guns. M1A Scout Squad: One of the more popular models in the M1A line, the M1A Scout Squad offers a balance between the smaller SOCOM model and full-size M1A Loaded. Of all my guns, it is also the most fun to shoot. Here's the complete price breakdown of this M1A project: Springfield Armory M1A, $1,640; Troy BattleRail M14, $279; McMillan Adjustable M3A, $548; SA Custom Shop glass-bedding service, $175; SA Custom Shop NM tuning, $35; SA Custom Shop NM barrel installation, $230; Leupold Mark 4 LR/T, $1,874; EOTech HHS II, $1,002. Sounds like someone has an anger issue;) Back to the review though, I absolutely LOVE this rifle and would never sell it (although many have asked).I have an M1A Scout Squad, which I purchased new in 2009. shimmed gas. Weight: 6.6 lbs. haha. Lets face it, its hard to beat a classic. In this article, were going to drill down the features on the first five models to help you figure out which M1A is best for you. Props to the generous sight radius and the .062 national match front sight post. The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. I told this to Jeff Cooper years ago, and of course he wasnt pleased but I am right and he was wrong. It is only available in one size and caliber. sadlak gas piston. M1A - Scout Vs Standard. Despite the great price on the Loaded, I passed it up for the Scout. Weight w/Empty Magazine: 9.3 lbs. Can you please advise what scout scope you used on your m14. The M8 keeps optics low (no cheek riser needed) and it allows you to co-witness the iron sights through low sitting Aimpoint red dot optics. Hows that working? He also drove a Norton motorcycle. And it has the same stock with a forward-mounted rail. I have many large-bore rifles from .22-250 to .375 H&H to .45-120 Sharps, and though not quite suitable for Africa, if I could only have one, the Springfield Armory Scout-Squad might very well be it. Vietnam saw M1 Garands and M14s before the M16 came out, both used quite effectively. Reduces amount of math needed for shots of that distance. I believe to make it NY compliant ie: no thread barrel they had to relocate the front site. chad haire the reason Jeff Cooper wasnt pleased is because it was a moronic comment, and he wasnt used to replying to moronic comments. First: I went to basic training at Fort Knox in 1973. But my daddy always said that if I couldnt hit it with iron sights, I probably didnt need to be shooting at it. Colby, (without magazine) Sights: Iron with rail Stock: Synthetic Action: Bolt Finish: Flat dark earth Capacity: 10+1 rounds Price: $818. For the younger crowd, it may be an adjustment from AR-style rifles but its fairly easy to master with a bit of practice. The M1A SOCOM 16 model is a modernized take on the M1A. The M14, by contrast, has quite usable controls in a slim, ergonomic platform. On the left side bolt catch/release issue I don't really find this much of an issue. I dropped a little on the accuracy with the steel, but I only had one fail to fire. Im sure theres more..somewhere. I had to sell mine a few months ago for some cash, but I miss it every weekend on the range. Love it and use the Bassett Machine scope mount so I can still use irons. Biggest issue with me is the stock. http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_. Nice rifles, I have several. I qualified with a M-14 in 1967 and spent 2 years living with Mattel Toys-R Us for the rest of my short career in the Marine Corps. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. A fully adjustable rear military aperture teams up with a crisp front sight post. I was issued an M14, I can say it was a great rifle. Obviously, the cheaper stuff will gunk up the gun, but after cleaning it everythings just fine. I wouldnt hold it against springfield, they have limited USGI parts left and they stretch em as long as they can to help save a buck. The brake does little to reduce the flash signature of the .308 round in low light conditions. Select what level shooter you are! Cooper felt that 2-3x magnification was sufficient. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Springfield M1A SCOUT SQUAD RIFLE vs STANDARD ISSUE RIFLE Posted: 11/24/2020 4:27:36 PM EST Why would I choose one over the other? I was for five years and carried an M14 everyday during one of my tours in Iraq. Item Number: AA9122NT. When I complained via email, the company didnt even bother to reply. The original Scout Rifle, the Steyr Scout has all the features Cooper wanted. Low Mount? I know more than a few other Marines would have too. Spec List: - Trigger: 2-Stage NM Tuned Trigger - Caliber: .308 WIN (7.62x51mm NATO) But yeah, the shorter barrel is handy too. Just make sure instructions are left how to care for it, kids these days, hope my grandson enjoys it as much as i do one day. Thank you! While the M1A is a semiautomatic-only rifle it's close enough to the fully-automatic M14 to make the most grizzled Vietnam vet turn all dewy-eyed. Nice review of an old idea, the LER pistol scope, I mean . I didnt have a choice in selecting one over another in the LGS up in Montana when we lived up there (09 time period). I grew up, essentially learning to shoot on an AR-15, and have actually come to prefer the M1A over the AR platform. The M1A is the civilian model of the military M14. Where is the rifle made? But it still performs very well, especially for its price-point. I believe the scout squad has a forward rail already for other options if you desire. (but be sure to wear good hearing protection because that thing is LOUD). When it comes to the Scout Squad, there are a couple variants with either a walnut wood stock or black synthetic stock. Basically, it shoots a powerful round, 7.62 NATO/.308 Win., a very long way. Along with that is that the M1A is generally not considered a firearm for newbies; the M1A is more expensive in price and more difficult to customize, but once you've got it the way you want it, it's hard to find something better. A good scout scope would be a worthwhile indulgence. I've always been a fan of the M14 and its civilian variants. Editors Note: This excerpt is from Modern Survival Guns: The Complete Preppers' Guide to Dealing with Everyday Threats, available now at GunDigestStore.com. Accuracy at 300 yards was right on. I enjoyed the review. Are those the Leupold QRW rings? M1A Rifle Series. Weight is a small consideration, even for my 70-year-old legs and the Wyoming prairie land. Joe, The deer you drag out is hefty (well, not so much the black tail.) Learn how your comment data is processed. Good review. (without magazine) Sights: Iron with rail Stock: Synthetic Action: Bolt Finish: Black Capacity: 10+1 rounds Price: $761. Che Guevara wore a Rolex GMT Master. Oh, and the conversion took about 40 min. The .308 Win. For accuracy testing, I picked up a few different 308 match rounds to see how the M1A grouped at 100 and 300 yards. Having a low power, high quality scope, such as a Leupold scout scope not only does not hinder your aiming out to 600 yards, but makes it easier and faster to aim than iron sites. These days, the Springfield Armory M1A is a popular choice for long range shooters, including hunting, recreational shooting, and competition shooting. Barrel: 18, 6-Groove, 1:11 Right Hand Twist, Parkerized I know my gun cabinet would rebel if I try to stack a foreign made (Czech) rifle in it. I am somewhat older and find the open .052 difficult to work with. The Springfield optics rail is too short and sits too high this problem is solved by installing the M8 optics rail from UltiMAK. Instead of a flash suppressor, the barrel is capped with a muzzle brake. Springfields response? M1As are one of the most popular and respected battle rifles in history.. Since the auther mentioned it, IF hew did get one, where did he get one? Notify Me When Available. With that said I think in this day and age Jeff Cooper would have embraced the Springfield Armory Scout Rifle. My thoughts at this point are as follows: Overall Length: 38.5 in. A red dot could easily be mounted. Rather than a flash suppressor, the barrel is capped off with a California-legal muzzle brake. I have a Springfield M1A scout and I love it more than anything. Barrel: 19 in. Basically, the M1A is the civilian version of the M14 designed by Springfield for the U.S. military. The military has finally realized their mistake to change battle rifles in the middle of a war. I have the standard model with the walnut stock: the classic look. Performed like a dream. I really want one of these. My eyes are too old for iron sights. I was considering the FX-II but was worried the 9.3" eye relief would be too short. The lighter bullets makes this rifle a sweetheart to shoot. This particular rifle seemed to like the Federal a bit more with an average group size at 100 yards of 1.25-1.4. I used Federal Premium and some cheap russian steel. Like the Scout Squad model, the SOCOM 16 comes with a muzzle brake to reduce felt recoil and reduce muzzle rise. Im a small framed woman and former Army brat who grew up shooting with my daddy back in the 80s. I know LOTS of people who have scout rifles, and the first thing they do is dump the scope for a nice red dot Aimpoint or ACOG. Weve built dozens of ARs and well cover all the best AR-15 upgrades such as handguards, triggers, BCGs, gas blocks, and more. Added an SEI castle nut adapter to allow me to mount a Battle Comp compensator. Springfield Tanker vs Saint Victor 308 Pistol Which Is the Better Ranch Gun? However, its only available in the black composite. Scout Squad M1A from Springfield. Bad habits notwithstanding, my point was that if a Marlboro cowgirl like me, frail lungs and all, can handle the weight of an M1A scout, then thats a pretty good sign. 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