The Hokies defense requires the DL to essentially "tie up" blockers and hold gaps. Miami has completely destroyed GT the last few years (if i remember correctly), and they do that by blowing up the GT OL at the LOS. Bud Foster called this scheme his "attack defense" but the base alignments were 8 man front's following the model of the famed Buddy Ryan 46 defense used by the Bears and Eagles in the 80's. The Whip was a weak side outside linebacker in the base 8-man front and he was a weak side safety in the 2-deep safety set (base used regularly in passing situations). More to come in my next post. k_~k=: .qNgR\T0A$wcfXoMe#:!v2W}\;Kfva%VSc~s{A?dtpq) g~u+c\8h{ ]KKCz/H-\XH/c&4]#T{*]k0:}M &i$kj? [=?_. I will touch on this more when I write my column on the secondary play, but I think because Hokies safeties have been victimized in man coverage so much, that Foster is looking at his safeties having less run support responsibility and being better at coverage, hence the change of putting converted corners at safety. Really excited about the front seven this year. If you have any questions, I will be sure to answer to answer them in the comments. Wiley, Brown, Russell, Drakeford, Gray, Banks, Prioleau, Charleton, Midget, Bird, McCadam, Pile, Hall, Green, Fuller, Williams, Hamilton, Rouse, Flowers, Harris, Chancellor, Carmichael, Hosley, Fuller, Exum, Jarrett. Prior to 2004, the alignment of the linebackers and safeties was based more on the strong side / weak side of the offensive formation. Following Michael Cole's injury, Foster mostly used the old "46" alignment made famous by Buddy Ryan and the Chicago Bears. The defense was predicated on putting 8 men in the box, and bringing a wide variety of unique blitzes to confuse and outman the offensive line, while in the secondary attempting to hide coverages and trick the defense into throwing into their quick blitz read, where a Hokie defensive back sat waiting to take the ball the other way. Based on the film that I have watched, either Bud Foster calls more middle linebacker run blitzes than any coach in the country, or the mike backer has almost zero pass responsibility. Really great stuff. I have no doubt this works against the Hokies in recruiting, but Foster also has archetypes he recruits to for his players. Have no idea how that played into Foster's defense, but he has played and started taller more slender DTs. So, it's not surprising that the man's personality matches his philosophy when it comes to dual reads in offensive football. The singular thing that can derail their run defense is getting chewed up physically against Georgia Tech. 5yltM;6#D"A.+|F'g"##PBG Wi+5~ljx3!_YJ8a7p;[Bx$60FF8x\f@-. *U# N)qQ/y(H"hVt kf@^L;,R?P0;|v44 JFC=zYh AWEBYl5I[.X@v6UQV@_msY)Ng1KhZ/Y)va+XsM =_ewrr\|2Q)/zN]N}q_r{f-wvw)1,Z )$fy86g8@ZtqI,dX& ^twn*g$b{xoa.WwDWZflk1g,JIEfPO[h-H( ,AdYp[fuNP&SuhZs`um%?HSpQ1Y. After all, at Pry's introductory presser he noted he cut his teeth as a graduate assistant in the mid-90s under Foster. 1. Thekeyplay.com is not affiliated with Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. Most teams go play side or bootleg with play action, but Clemson (in old 1930's single-wing style) would have the Tajh fake, then continue to waggle a step playside. The DEs aligned much like they do today with the Stud always to the wide side and the End always to the boundary. Its a bit like a Tampa 2 defense, where the MLB drops back deeper in zone over the middle with 2 safeties behind, except that here youre dropping the FS down instead of backing up the MLB. 2. If you can stop the run with six, the whip or backside safety doesn't have to commit so quickly. Its heavy on blitzes from those two hybrid players. Clemson started to rise after that game, and we started to fall. * 21+ (19+ CA-ONT) (18+ NH/WY). A similar thing happened with the game against Miami, where LM just gashed us in the second half. A 46 is by definition a "Bear" front, but to use "Bear" does not necessarily mean a 46 defense. The architect of Tech's famed Lunch Pail Defense, Foster was the longest continually tenured FBS assistant coach at the same school at the time of his retirement in 2019. What I do see Tech doing is forcing opponents to keep the RB/TE in there to block by blitzing the WHIP often. VTs version of defense is a morphed descendent of what the Washington Huskies ran in the 80s and early 90s when their defense dominated the Pacific coast under DC Jim Lambright. Free Safety: Free safety starts in a deep third lined up 12 yards off the ball directly behind the mike. Offensive schemes do the same. In the above play, Jayron Hosley backpedals to his deep third at the snap. The doubles on the interior also give the ends more flexibility to get upfield and rush the passer. Guys like Acree don't fit, and I do not think for a second that the "four defensive end" alignment that we heard about in the spring will be used at any time other than on passing down and distance plays.Guys like Zach McCray and JR Collins, while big enough to play DT in a pinch, are too long to really be effective on those interior stunts (that is one of the reasons that Nick Acree was never a favorite of Charley Wiles.). It turns into a 1/4-1/4-1/2 scheme, C3, or you have to split the coverage so that the single receiver backside is getting man coverage. French on the Bench is a new series of posts that will take a closer look at the theory, fundamentals, and scheme of Tech's offense and defense. The consistent 3 stripes on white was a good look. Against an 8-man front, it was difficult for offenses to establish the run because there was generally one defender unaccounted for in the blocking scheme. Because he lines up so close to the LOS, he has to be really good with his backpedal fundamentals to be successful, but in 2-Robber he has the flat zone strong. When the 8th man entered the box, the passing game opened up. WHIP might align himself like a FS, but hell come down over the middle into a hook zone instead of dropping for deep half-field coverage. It really is an outlier as far as defenses, as much as Paul Johnson's wishbone is on offense. Not adjusted to the offensive formation. As mentioned earlier in this article, the coaches decided to make these adjustments because offenses had schemed some things to specifically attack Techs 8-man front base defense with more 3-4 wide receiver sets and more spread formations. Stopping the run is one of the basic tenants of the defensive scheme. As the coaches like to say, it is important that their minds do not tie up their feet. Hopefully Logan will have improved his accuracy to be able to make them pay for it. They recruit nimble, short tackles, which you don't see in the NFL. This column was more about the run defense, so I can work on drawing up some plays and video that shows how Clemson neutralized the Hokies in a future piece. Watching film of South Carolina against Clemson, South Carolina absolutely manhandled the Clemson OL, the same OL that manhandled the Hokies in the 2nd half of the ACC CG. In addition to these types of coverage adjustments, there may be front and pressure adjustments made by the defense as well. Also, stud 6'6 265 DE's who want to play in the NFL, not tie up linemen so linebackers make plays. I don't know recall the plays that Taylor and JWG got hurt, so I am not really sure. pretty cool to look back on it from time to time. The WHIP LB is a weakside LB, analogous to a JACK LB in a 3-4, who often blitzes off the edge in pressure situations, but who has to be able to cover backs well. Meanwhile, the defensive linemen must be quick enough and flexible enough to slant heavily (sometimes 2 gaps) each way, which lends itself to short, stocky defensive tackles whocan get to a spot then hold their gap responsibility. Check Fantastic furniture Catalogue and Freedom furniture Catalogue. "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby, I wish I could give you more legs. A lot can still happen from that base pre-snap state, including shifts, motion, and checks/audibles by the offense. Can we get this thread retitled - "A Look Back at a Look Back to . VT couldn't stop the run against Stanford. And you can quote me on that shit!" All original material and images are copyrighted by TechSideline.com and may not be reused or reprinted without permission. Maddy is going to have to really step it up to be the starter. This "Field G" is mostly what Virginia Tech is in nowadays. Some of the biggies are game situation, down and distance, ball position, and offensive personnel. All Hokie, All the Time. The Whip slides over in a defensive back alignment over the inside receiver. Inverted Cover 2 Robber is a 2-deep, 5-underneath zone coverage that uses the FS as the Robber. h_k@vJbR HT-T5632U0 BcD\^}O##|^ endstream endobj 13 0 obj 45 endobj 10 0 obj << /Type /XObject /Subtype /Image /Name /I22 /Filter /DCTDecode /Width 32 /Height 3 /BitsPerComponent 8 /ColorSpace /DeviceGray /Length 11 0 R >> stream The Whip blitzes hard from the 7 gap to fly through the 5 gap space. Former Coaching Staff: Where are they now? The Backer disguises, looking like he is scraping play-side, but in reality, he is filling the interior of the 6 gap. Even if they win, guys like Hopkins and Collins were just not the same after the GT game last year. Rover always goes to the side of the passing strength (not necessarily the TE side) or the Field side, and WHIP always aligns opposite the Rover. He does not have to be a big guy, but he does have to have a very high motor. Cover 6 goes well with the pressure fronts they like to show. Love the in-depth analysis. The players also aligned differently. When fans get their first glimpse of the Hokies this spring, they will see a huge degree of Bud Foster influence in Brent Pry's defensive scheme. The changes were not major in terms of philosophy and were primarily related to base sets, player alignment and the responsibilities of the Whip and Rover positions. Flowers, Hall, and Green have been starters. During a career that spanned over 3 decades Bud orchestrated some of the most physical and staunches defenses in the country. If the blitz didnt get to the QB quickly, then the defense was at risk for a big play. Mike: The Mike backer (Jack Tyler) lines up directly over the center, and blitzes against the flow of the play to fly through the 1-3 gap. I'm pretty sure, if VT could land Hand or Brown, Foster would develop them into 1st Rd D-linemen, even in a gap fitting scheme. In the nineties, many teams tried to emulate Frank Beamer and defensive coordinator Bud Foster's scheme, with its premium on defenders stacking the line to either stop the run or scare the offense into abandoning it and apologizing for having considered such a silly idea. "I think one of the biggest reasons actually was Steeles defense. At the time, the Whip and Rover were described as hybrid players that had combination linebacker/defensive back responsibilities. Is this true and if so, how do we strengthen this weakness with out losing run control? This is absolutely an attacking defense where every player is expected to #1 maintain leverage/control their gap responsibility and #2 attack attack attack the ball carrier. Virginia Tech Hokies football, basketball, athletics blog and forum featuring: unique columns, breaking news, film studies, in-depth analysis, recruiting, videos and jokes. Thanks! I hope they can return to dominance. As for NFL caliber lineman. His initial spot is 3x5 off the TE, reading the #2 receiver. Virginia Tech defensive coordinator Bud Foster, who announced Thursday he would be retiring at the end of this his 33rd season, is the longest continually tenured assistant at the same school in . If those guys don't need much safety help, then the corners can take chances, bait QB's and mix in robber coverages to get turnovers. f endstream endobj 9 0 obj 55 endobj 6 0 obj << /Type /XObject /Subtype /Image /Name /I1 /Filter /DCTDecode /Width 32 /Height 27 /BitsPerComponent 8 /ColorSpace /DeviceGray /Length 7 0 R >> stream I broke the 4th wall of telestration. In other words, without changing the base personnel, it was a scheme that could adjust play to play from a run stopping 8-in-the-box set to a strong pass stopping set with five defensive backs (Whip, Rover, Field Corner, Boundary Corner, Free Safety). Registering for an account is free and easy. Seems there were a lot of big plays in that game and during the year. It is a scheme that looks complicated, but yet is very simple. A "Bear" front covers both OGs and the Center, making it an Odd front. For example, a corner will not follow a motioning receiver across the field, even if it is man coverage. And that is a key aspect of playing great defense, especially when the system relies heavily on speed, quickness and pursuit. Likewise, by no longer asking the Rover to man up against speedy slot receivers to the wide side of the field allows linebacker / safety type athletes like Aaron Rouse to be successful at that position. . Containment often fell onto the shoulders of the Whip LB, a hybrid player that was part linebacker and part safety. Dog Inside Blitz, a common blitz you see from Tech. From a fans perspective, it is easy to see that football is very challenging physically its arguably the most physical of any sport in the world. View All Discussions French on the Bench , "David doesn't even fart. It is fascinating stuff and beautiful to watch when it produces the type of results that we have seen over the years from Bud Fosters bunch. So obviously if it doesn't work the scheme breaks down because it also means not being able to pressure the offense and the QB into poor decisions. The running back is supposed to take two strides playside, plant his playside leg (in this case the right leg) and select a weak spot where the defender has overrun the play. It seems to me that when Bruce Taylor is in the game there's quite a bit more of a mix. I have told anyone who would listen that I didn't like having Collins moved inside, and that if they did move him inside, he needed to get upfield and disrupt the full back/QB mesh point. Fosters defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where they need to be. Ive said it before but Im super serious this timethis is a must win game for Clemsons NCAA tournament resume. This aggressive nature of the defense led to years with incredible tackles-for-loss numbers. So opposing coaches will tell a kid he'll have a better shot of making it to the NFL if he plays in a "NFL-style" 4-3. So that got me thinking: how does Bud and Co defend GT differently than a more pro style set? In his walked out spot, he is reading the backfield triangle to the #2/#3 receiver and has the flat zone weak. By handing off in this way, the defenders do not tip the coverage. The defensive front called "Bear" is part of the 46 defense, but they are separable things. Some teams run a 2 gap scheme (which is much more difficult to get players for.) in the long run, if the giants dline continues to dominant with "defensive ends", i think it can be used to pitch to good dlineman. While the nose sometimes gets unblocked and can get upfield, more often than not he will make contact with the guard and tackle. So, they would use multiple tight ends to the strong side, then motion one of those tight ends back to the whip side. In passing situations, the Hokies use more defensive backs than the old days, but Foster's mentality hasn't changed. It depends on which version of the 4-3. Size, strength, and explosiveness were huge factors in that variance. We will review the scheme adjustments that were made following the 2003 season and the impact they have had. http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/jan/21/swinney-hired-venables-br OT: "The Mandalorian" S3 discussion thread (feat. That's how good of a kid he is." How will VT defend against teams like Stanford and other NFL caliber offenses? For that reason, some teams found success by running weak side out of those spread formations. Ellington) to take advantage of because all of our LB's are trained to be in gap control and aren't prepared to be in coverage. I think that with their recruiting getting better, Foster may change. Our DL has way more play making responsibility in the run game than a traditional 4-3 where at least 2 of the linemen are expected to eat double blocks and free up the linebackers. And finally, we will take a look at how all of the calls and adjustments for each play are communicated from the coaches to the players. For #3, I think this defense actually makes the corners look better than they really are. Remember that what I am describing in this series is at the 5,000 foot level. The "Nose" and "Tackle" are the two defensive tackles in Bud Foster's defense and are generally interchangeable, meaning that on any given play, either defensive tackle can be the "Nose" or the "Tackle". Because of the gap fit responsibility, a tremendous amount of pressure exists for the whip and the safeties to be sure tacklers anytime the ball carrier penetrates the line. The Chargers' defense ranked last in third-down conversion percentage (49.54%), 30th in rushing yards allowed per game (138.9), 30th in points allowed per game (27.0) and 23rd in yards allowed . Tackle: The Tackle (Derrick Hopkins) lines up as a 3 technique, outside eye of the backside guard. Everything I've read has Antoine starting next to his brother this fall. They have to get Maddy, Marshall, and McCray in there to dominate rather than having read and react play from Wilson and Collins (at tackle.). If the safeties have to make a bunch of tackles (see Stanford, Miami, Boise, Clemson), then the corners are on an island and at some point, even the best corners will get beat in man coverage. Jessie has three boys of her. Again, the tackle will rarely be in position to make the tackle, but must minimally plug up the gap, causing the back to look to cut back to the 1 gap. "That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! Registered users can participate in the forum, post and vote on comments. 20102023, Orange and Maroon Media, LLC. I don't have the time to cover them all, but this is a pressure-based defense. It will be a 4-3. http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2012/jan/21/swinney-hired-venables-br. One thing that the Hokies will have to do is be able to beat their press coverage on our receivers like what happened when D.J. Bud, a divorcee, married Jessie in February on Super Bowl Sunday, about four months after the hospital scare and around the time discussion began about him retiring. While they are both still hybrid type players, their responsibilities are more confined. Note- things I was wrong about when I started this off: A) Backer is to the boundary. The running back will see that the Stud has contain, and will not look to pull a "David Wilson" and make a break for the 8 gap. Actually Clemson's D is not going to be all that different than what it was last year except that Venable is simplifying it without all the checks and stuff. couple that with (hopefully) some VERY strong dline recruits panning out, and landing dhand and/or brown next year, and it seems as if our defense is only going to get better and better, French-- in your opinion what position in the front 7 is the most important for a successful tech D. Also fwiw if tyler plays every play like those 2 video plays above its going to be hard to keep him off the field especially against gt. The nose tackle is a 1 technique, the tackle is a 3 technique. The primary reason why more teams dont try to run this type of scheme is because of the inability to find the two swing players however, and you need them to play against spread teams. Yeah Hosley getting knocked out screwed the rest of the defense off. a !1AQa"q2B#$Rb34rC%Scs5&DTdEt6UeuF'Vfv7GWgw(8HXhx )9IYiy The wide side is called the field and the short side is called the boundary. In a traditional one gap 4-3 defense, each player in the front seven has the gap in front of them with few exceptions, with examples being a variety of stunts and run blitzes that are run in small proportion to the base calls. There are a ton of details that are critical for the defense to execute properly. In this installment of the series, we will cover the general concepts of Bud Foster's defensive scheme, including how offensive personnel and formation impact defensive alignments and responsibilities. With those 3-4 wide formations, they could isolate a quick, speedy receiver in man coverage against Techs Backer and Rover to the strong side of the formation. It was a pro-style system and designed to work against pro-style offenses, which is precisely what the Hokies system is. He has held the job since 1996, and he came to . We will look at the Hokies pass defense in more detail in a later post. Finally, the ball is snapped and the play runs to completion, most likely in five seconds or less. Meanwhile, passing downs allow the Hokies to easily switch the whip for a nickel back. In the Michigan game, almost every completion came against the safeties. The diagram below uses numbers to identify each gap. A student manager signals the personnel group (12 in this example) via the sign board. Body positioning, angle of alignment, depth of alignment, how to come off the snap (use of hands, proper footwork, etc), reading each individual key, reacting properly to those keys, proper pursuit angle, tackling technique.that is just a short list of things that the players must focus on correctly as a unit for the defense to be successful on any given play. The 8-man front, aggressive blitzing style of defense often forced the Hokies to play man coverage across the board with little or no deep help. Privacy Policy | Terms of Use. And with JGW on the edge, he had to be. To the uneducated eye, the defense features two ends, two tackles, three linebackers, two safeties, and two corners just like a traditional NFL style 4-3, but Foster turns the 4-3 concept on its ear. What VT wants to do to you is show the 8 man front, and force you to go into max-protect blocking, and then peel those extra 2 guys back into Cover 4. The first number reflects the number of running backs and the second number reflects the number of tight ends. The 4-2-5 Defense Study (Softcover: 145 pages) . The "G" front is the base front, but here I have not adjusted to the formation. If one DL gets blown out of the hole, it creates problems for every other defender. Oh, and lets not forget the secret weapon. The Hokies used a base 8-man front the majority of the time. And then they all have to stay on the same page through a series of on-going adjustments just before the ball is snapped. I have not watched any tape of Miami vs Georgia Tech, so I am not sure if they make any specific adjustments from their normal scheme, but they certainly have the Yellow Jackets pegged. Maybe an example would work here. Virginia Techs defense is a unique one in major college football in that it is very much an older style of defense descended from the Gap 8 and Wide Tackle 6. http://www.playbookexchange.net/playbooks/Defense/02060201-VirginiaTechAttack.pdf. So, every player has to know exactly where to be, exactly what to do, and exactly where to go before running with reckless abandon into a full speed collision. Through the first half, Andre Ellington was averaging like 1.3 yards a carry with 23 yards total. At the snap, Jack Tyler reads a key that sends him flying through the one gap. Yet, unlike most stunts and blitzes where the defensive player is trying to shake loose to make a play, the Foster gap defense still requires the players who were stunting to maintain responsibility for their assigned gap. In the diagram, Whitley (who the coaches called "the rover" last year) is lined up to the twins side, and he motions back to the middle of the field while Exum (who was the "free safety" last year) rotates up towards the line with the motion. I think I understand why our defense is used against us in recruiting. The zone run requires each offensive lineman to block the gap to the playside, moving along the line of scrimmage and maintaining contact for as long as possible with the first defender that crosses their face. But I don't think we put enough pressure on them either due to match ups on the front line and some weaknesses in coverage, both due to injuries. Registered users can participate in the forum, post and vote on comments. Tech often checks out of 4 into their version of straight Man, called a Cover 6 package, but it maintains the C4 look. The results of these adjustments speak for themselves. WHIP often creeps up because he usually gets a 1 on 1 matchup with the RB in coverage. It is generally made with a 2i-technique on the weakside (Wide 6) and a 3-technique strongside (Split 6), so its quite close to the Over front (1 tech weak, 3-tech strong). The boundary, field, and rover all have pass coverage. So something else broke down that lead to Clemson being able to run the ball like they did in the second half. I admit, I got chills when I read Charley Wiles bullet on defensive line play: "Feet in neutral zone by the time the ball disappears into centers crouch.". Here's the INT described at the end of the article. They tie up the center and both guards, allowing the middle linebacker to go unblocked sideline to sideline. 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